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Game #1025 Tournament game#5 | Round 1 : 2019 PBEM Duel Tournament #5

Zytozid vs  NobCob


Match Details

Played:2019-08-07
Rating 1 - Excellent Game
Amount of Humans:2
Kind of Report:2019 PBEM Duel Tournament
Kind of game:   PBEM
Game-value: 40
Result Player Classes Races Team Points Extra Points Missed Points Quitter Rate
1 ZytozidTheocratHalflings11150here
2 NobCobArchdruidElves200-36here
Posts to the game:
user
Published on Tue, 13 Aug 2019 12:47:39 +0200

Written by Zytozid
Ah sorry. I never "met" him ingame and thought he was using a standard character, which would have been elven rogue. Didn't want to create any confusion, just didn't knew it better to report the game.
Well spotted, Hil.
user
Published on Mon, 12 Aug 2019 22:09:54 +0200

Written by Hiliadan
Again, wasn't NobCob playing AD? Please update the report if he was. @NobCob: you've got a second match as it's a double elimination tournament, please check the round 2's game blog.
Published on Mon, 12 Aug 2019 20:31:18 +0200

Confirmed by NobCob
Really sorry we had to cut this one short- life's been incredibly hectic for me lately. Best of luck in the tournament, Zytozid!

Edit: Hiliadan, I was playing an Arch Druid, that's correct.
user
Published on Sat, 10 Aug 2019 18:49:42 +0200

Written by Hiliadan
I think NobCob played Julia so should be High Elf Arch Druid and not High Elf Rogue, right? (it's not Sundren)
user
Published on Fri, 09 Aug 2019 16:42:44 +0200

Written by Hiliadan
Hi! After analysis of the scores, judges decided to award the victory to Zytozid. It's a shame that so few turns were played as games may not be decided that early. NobCob, I hope you'll have better starts in future games and will keep laying at a better pace.

Please update the class/race and prepare for round 2.
user
Published on Wed, 07 Aug 2019 20:43:02 +0200

Written by Zytozid
Hi, it's my turn now. I will do it and then save & exit, save the log files and get back to you soon.
user
Published on Wed, 07 Aug 2019 18:40:28 +0200

Admin report to start round 2. Please send scores by PM to judges ASAP so that we can confirm who actually won.
user
Published on Wed, 07 Aug 2019 18:40:28 +0200

Match has been reported, please confirm!
user
Published on Mon, 05 Aug 2019 23:56:24 +0200

NobCob? One or two turns? Else the current state will just be the end.
user
Published on Mon, 05 Aug 2019 19:00:09 +0200

Yes, that's it. <smiletext0> Thanks.
user
Published on Mon, 05 Aug 2019 13:44:47 +0200

I talked with NobCob and thought he'd do his turns, and then I was busy the last time myself. I didn#t want to put the turn timer on when it's his turn because it would skip him again, as it did once. When it was my turn I mostly forgot to put a turn timer because I immediately dobule click and do/send my turn asap.

After the deadline, if it's not my turn I wait until it is and as I am last in turn order (I guess); what I need to do is:
Wait until it's my turn, do it but do NOT send it but save & exit (damn, I hope I don't accidentlysend the turn because is such a strong automatism in my head) and save in backup. Then I get back into it, surrender and send you the scores.

Sounds about right?
user
Published on Mon, 05 Aug 2019 13:31:58 +0200

You should have notified me a long time ago and put a turn timer. Zytozid, are you the last player of the turn and do tou understand the instructions I posted?
user
Published on Mon, 05 Aug 2019 13:11:39 +0200

Hi Hil,

NobCob hasn't done his turn(s) fast in the PBEM tournament. What should we do? We haven't even met, yet. NobCob had some private issues I think why it was hard for him to do his turns timely.
Will then simply the score decide?

@NobCob if possible, please do your turn(s) fast(er) in the future. Our match really didn't go beyond super early phase and I checked if it was my turn most days (mostly multiple times a day).
user
Published on Sun, 04 Aug 2019 23:31:09 +0200

2 days left. Could you please confirm the last player in the turn order read and understood this?
In theory it should be Zytozid, right?
user
Published on Fri, 02 Aug 2019 23:47:46 +0200

Hi! What turn did you reach? 4 days left to end the game, cf. https://www.the-battlefield.c... />
The deadline is 2019-08-06 10:22 PM (GMT+3 if I'm not mistaken). For the player on slot #2 (so should be the host), he has to follow this procedure AFTER the deadline so that we can decide score victory:
1/ AFTER the deadline, the strategic turn is played until the last player in the turn order
2/ that player plays his turn, saves & quits, copy the save game to a backup folder
3/ that player re-enters the game and surrenders, then takes screenshots of all the scores (general, domain, research, military, happiness). He does NOT end the turn. Instead he quits the game without ending the turn.
4/ he sends the screenshots to judges (Marcuspers, Jonny Thunder and me)
5/ judges check the scores and take a decision
user
Published on Sun, 28 Jul 2019 18:09:00 +0200

Hi! You're quite late compared to other games. Please prioritize this tournament game and try to speed up the pace, there are only 9 days left to complete the game.
Published on Fri, 19 Jul 2019 17:54:12 +0200

Looks like we're at turn 12, per the last auto-email I got informing me it's my turn.
user
Published on Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:57:39 +0200

I don't know. NobCob, do you know which turn we're in? It's yours, maybe you can write it down here once you do your turn (:
user
Published on Wed, 17 Jul 2019 22:57:17 +0200

Hi! What turn did you reach?
user
Published on Fri, 28 Jun 2019 14:56:10 +0200

@Hiliadan

I understand and that is absolutely fine. Anyway, I hope nothing comparable occurs again.

I do not play this tournament to win it but for fun and I see no value in cheating or gaining an unfair advantage, it only would make a victory worthless to me, should I achieve it with unfair advantages. That being said: Happy to continue the game!
user
Published on Thu, 27 Jun 2019 23:26:01 +0200

Hi! Zytozid, you got a warning equivalent to warning without proof of crash, which is in line with previous similar cases where reverts happened. We know you likely acted in good faith but we need to be coherent with past and future cases.
user
Published on Thu, 27 Jun 2019 12:08:53 +0200

NobCob, you can then proceed and do your turn. Let me know if you need more time at best via Steam, then I'll switch off the turn timer. I'll swicthit on after you have done your current turn.
user
Published on Thu, 27 Jun 2019 09:59:08 +0200

Yep, please do that and let me know. As I also said I actually read through all rules again this time before starting the tournament, still forgot about that one when I saw NobCob was skipped. I just reverted it reflexively, didn't want to gain an anufair advantage. Anyway, I hope every mistake I make, I make only once and maybe in a few tournaments I'll actually not do any of these formal mistakes  
user
Published on Wed, 26 Jun 2019 18:05:55 +0200

There are very good reasons why turn reverts are forbidden. I know it's very frustrating to get one's turn skipped, or feel very unfairplay to let an opponent skips his turn, but that's the way it is.
You can continue, I'm going to check with the other judges what level of warning you get Zytozid.
user
Published on Wed, 26 Jun 2019 11:14:39 +0200

Okay, I pause the game and won't do my turn. If you can check this in the logs you will see that I reverted the turn when it was mine and NobCob was skipped. I never started my turn but reverted it immediately because it feels unfair to me if NobCob is skipped without me knowing why.
And this being a family emergency...and NobCob looking for a job (hey, same here NobCob! ) I think I've done right.

It's weird how I always act intuitivily with nothing bad in mind and somehow still manage to act against the rules 
If you need anythign Hiliadan let me know.
Published on Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:52:34 +0200

sorry guys. Been looking for a new job and handling a family emergency. I'll make an effort to finish turns on time. Zytozid, I appreciate extending the turn timer to 3 days. That should help.
user
Published on Tue, 25 Jun 2019 13:57:25 +0200

Rule 3: "If a player skips his turn because of the timer, it is not allowed to revert the turn: the host should remove the turn timer and players should notify judges and wait for their indications on how to continue."

Turn reverts are forbidden. Let me check with other judges what we do.
Please indeed pause the game and try to contact him.
user
Published on Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:40:53 +0200

NobCob didn't do his turns in quite a while. I reverted a round and set off the turn timer and wrote him on Steam. NobCob, maybe you can let me know here what's going on/how long you're gone?
Published on Tue, 25 Jun 2019 11:39:40 +0200
System notification


Round 1 : 2019 PBEM Duel Tournament #5
Please click here to read the rules.

In order to avoid advantaging one team or the other, for each match, the team who will host the match was randomly selected.
The first team in the "turn order" above (who is also the team on top in the tree here) must host the game.

Any of the players in the team can host.
Tournament Game #5 Round 1 !

When players do not show up for their match, the Tournament Judges have the right to change the match!
user
Published on Thu, 13 Jun 2019 21:38:14 +0200

Ok, you're good to go!
Good luck & have fun!
user
Published on Thu, 13 Jun 2019 16:35:52 +0200

Settings adjusted in new scenario,. It has the same name and password, BobCob, please join after you send your race/class combination to Hiliadan.

New settings:
https://gyazo.com/46537df48a97974584a07e41cfbc1b4d
user
Published on Thu, 13 Jun 2019 15:36:29 +0200

Dan, I read that and astill missed it, out of habit. Will change accordingly. Yes, I use all teh right mods as described in the rules, read through them again to make that sure
Will set up the game anew with the correct geography settings.
user
Published on Thu, 13 Jun 2019 00:01:58 +0200

Hi!
Zytozid, the geography settings need to be updated to 40% Mountain, Wetland and Barrens, see rules. Also, do you confirm you're using the Tournament Edition of the balance mod + the SDNR mod?

(I tried to post earlier but had some technical issues)
user
Published on Wed, 12 Jun 2019 23:51:49 +0200

Yeah, last days /weeks were super busy, but should be better in the future. Please add me on steam and write me a message there if you need me to revert a turn or so:
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969351925
I'm not checking the-öbattlefield always
Published on Wed, 12 Jun 2019 21:31:11 +0200

Hey Zytosid, 2 day turn timer is perfectly fine. You mentioned you're a busy guy, I can say the same, so I won't fault you for having a day here or there where you just don't have time for AoW. 
user
Published on Wed, 12 Jun 2019 20:06:54 +0200

hello
Hi Nobcob, would you be okay with a turn tinerof 2 days? 1 day is quite few.

My game is set up. The name is: NobCob 2019 pbem tournament.
The password is NobCob.

Proof of game settings:

https://gyazo.com/5b6586a07141dcb747cf2e87c3b1f5da
https://gyazo.com/66ec5180828097d2e61a516c49bb74d2
https://gyazo.com/cbd068c1bd543e714850549a4f4c3800


user
Published on Wed, 12 Jun 2019 01:03:54 +0200

Sorry too buy today. Might be able to host tomorrow!
user
Published on Tue, 11 Jun 2019 22:31:57 +0200

Hi! NobCob, please send your class/race to Jonny Thunder or me by private message.
@Zytozid: please try to host ASAP as the clock is ticking already.
user
Published on Mon, 10 Jun 2019 18:27:51 +0200

Hi all,

sorry for not responding sooner. Lots of happenings in my life but will have enough time t play he tournament easily. I'll need to review all rules and set up the game afterwards. If you don#t hear back from me (if the game is not set up) by the end of this week please let me know and I'll get to it asap. As so much is going on, it might slip under my radar. Thanks!
user
Published on Fri, 07 Jun 2019 00:05:30 +0200

Hi! Zytozid is hosting, for round 1, please use the Tournament Edition version of the balance mod instead of the main branch, as explained in the Player Pool: https://steamcommunity.com/sh... />Please post screenshots of the settings as usual. Pay attention it's Game speed: Fast.

Missing both's class/race. @NobCob: please check the rules, you need to send me (as judge) your class/race for round 1 by PM.