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Game #845 | xlnt vs DreadReapr game 6

DreadReapr vs  xlnt


Match Details

Played:2018-10-18
Amount of Humans:2
Kind of game:   PBEM
Game-value: 42
Result Player Classes Races Team Points Extra Points Missed Points Quitter Rate
1 DreadReaprWarlordDwarves21300here
2 xlntArchdruidElves1-130-20here
Posts to the game:
user
Published on Thu, 18 Oct 2018 22:05:45 +0200

@Hiliadan: ever occured to you that you and Marcus are 2 of the best 5 players here? Warlord has very little to offer vs mind control and basically no scouting - specially after turn 5. Of course a great player might find a victory here and there but statistically - if we pair regular but not extremelly good players - those who were rogue, theo, necro will have a lot more wins than the ones that went warlord/ad/dn.

@Dread - will make a new game
user
Published on Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:40:24 +0200

user
Published on Thu, 18 Oct 2018 21:40:24 +0200

Match has been reported, please confirm!
user
Published on Thu, 18 Oct 2018 20:40:43 +0200

"t7 combo being a class that sits in one place waiting for the others to go mind control the map" that may be how you and Dread play the class and I thought like you before, until I played it and saw its potential. Warlord is actually one of the best class for PBEM, more so on larger maps than on smaller maps, but even in small maps, it's very competitive. Of course you enjoy when you have a MC hero but even without that, it's very strong.

See for instance my choice to play Warlord to face Marcus on round 8 of the Duel Tournament: https://www.the-battlefield.c...
user
Published on Thu, 18 Oct 2018 20:38:16 +0200

i surrendered , can u create a new game bcz im having a bug on BF. 
here is pbem competitive changelog: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1542010044

MC units are killed after battle, inflict ghoul curse now have a very low chance of ghouling units, its not op.
user
Published on Thu, 18 Oct 2018 20:33:42 +0200

yeah sure Hiliadan - i do change my mind over night (;
t7 combo being a class that sits in one place waiting for the others to go mind control the map

in the current balance mode i still have no other place for Warlord except last, together with AD and DN - and about me losing - i do want to take full responcibility for that, i lost because i played like an idiot, not because Warlord is great at having flying scout, neither because my oponent attacked me with hordes of t3 units

@Dread - i don't know what your mode is and i prefer to play games on the tournament rules, but i'll join if you need me for testing, maybe we should try to check how Warlord is vs Sorc when there is no mind control in the game (is that what your mode does or is it the 25% chance for +400 morale and the unit stays after battle?)

also - please play your turn so i can surrender, unless you want to check/test something before that (:
user
Published on Thu, 18 Oct 2018 20:11:40 +0200

im looking for a rematch, feel free to join my created games with my new balance mod 
user
Published on Thu, 18 Oct 2018 10:13:32 +0200

Looks like you got defeated by a Tier 7 combo xlnt. <smiletext1> Maybe it's not as a bad as you thought.
user
Published on Thu, 18 Oct 2018 05:13:56 +0200

Ye i explored sunkin city with hunters, gg
user
Published on Wed, 17 Oct 2018 22:44:51 +0200

i see no reason to waste both our time with this game - i don't want to suggest i have a chance after seeing the Lord of Thunder (quest done with M. Hunters?!)

Great game - thanks for the lesson
user
Published on Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:18:07 +0200

Best solution for MC inbalance is disband unit after battle, i hear 2 excuses that prevent this from happening:
1- its fun to convert units which i dnt think its true for most players, even if its true we shud sacrifice this “little conver fun” for sake of class balance which is a priority. Plus it make sense to only change convert basic definition to “units disband better than changing more than 50 spells, skills etc, if u read pbem mod changelog you ll know that more than 50% of changes are Related to MC balance and until this day i still think mC is still a big issue

2- convert class would be too weak without MC, which also not true bcz theo, necro and rogue are strong classes in live game without conversion.

Im considering add another percentage of convert success after battle (around 25%) after convert success in battle which shud nerf mc power by 75% or so.
user
Published on Wed, 17 Oct 2018 10:11:46 +0200

I know the difference and i do believe MC is the most stupid design thing ever - in Magic the Gathering this effect has a BIG cost and it's slow AND it can be answered!

My only statement is that there are Tier1 class/race combos and Human Rogue is one of those and Warlord (AD, DK) can't compete. Sorc is kinda in the middle as it has easy access to all flying stacks and Rogue, Theo and Necro just have a strong game plan and easy time vs the rest - that is all. Idk what the difference is in live MP as i have neither the time nor the motivation to try that. Hiliadan and the rest of the balance team recently wanted to do a change for Tigran and cut their gold bonus because Warlord is unbeatable (they said) and i was AMAZED at this

Anyway - i would love to do some testing vs Warlord but in this game it will not happen as i didn't expect you will do what you did and AD vs Warlord is a pretty even match in my mind - animal slayer and water-walking Warlord units are nice but AD has fly/air superiority and the growth vs many towns is a point for the Warlord but i haven't tested that.

Did i mentioned i love discussing tactics and you should expect text walls if you bother to answer me

p.s. i also don't feel offended if people don't want to have a big chat so.. just don't answer (;
user
Published on Tue, 16 Oct 2018 11:43:04 +0200

See the diffrence between number of units with MC class (like our last game) and nb of units u have in this match?
Its very silly and inbalanced.
My upcoming balance mod will disband mc units after battle or make successfuly converted units have a low percentage to stay alive after battle [similar to age of death ghoul system]
user
Published on Tue, 16 Oct 2018 09:48:43 +0200

got some druids and t3 animals but i consider it a lose when i don't kill around turn 20 ):
user
Published on Mon, 15 Oct 2018 22:51:17 +0200

oh is that all you got ? ...
user
Published on Mon, 15 Oct 2018 22:06:11 +0200

got punished for walking around aimlessly while knowing i'm revealed for several turns

seems like my epic game will not be this one ):
user
Published on Sun, 14 Oct 2018 20:34:27 +0200

sure - i have open slots
user
Published on Sun, 14 Oct 2018 19:58:57 +0200

yes i like fast turns too, we can do another game at the same time , maybe when i release the "Live MP" pbem balance version this week
user
Published on Sun, 14 Oct 2018 19:45:19 +0200

of course - i'm not trying to be funny, just making an observation that dwarfs do have a point of being away or more away form the oponent

p.s. it's REALLY great to play with you because the turns are so fast (:
user
Published on Sun, 14 Oct 2018 12:15:59 +0200

im not worried even if im on surface 
user
Published on Sun, 14 Oct 2018 12:08:22 +0200

hmm - now this seems like a combo that can work for the Warlord - hard to rush dwarfs with punny elves

hope this is going to be an epic game!
user
Published on Mon, 08 Oct 2018 20:00:06 +0200

link to screens: 

https://imgur.com/a/yVMAYpX
user
Published on Sun, 07 Oct 2018 20:54:25 +0200

i'll make the game now - name as in here (sorry but i don't really know how much games we had so i just called it games 6)

pass: 1225

will post pics shortly, tournament rules on the beta branch and a square medium map

p.s. game is up but i haven't uploaded the screens - it was late and i was tired. will post them tonight, after work

GL & HF
Published on Sun, 07 Oct 2018 17:29:04 +0200
System notification


please play with me
hi and welcome to a 1vs1 pbem game using the tournament rules. 

i offer to play any class/race you need training against and some medium difficulty to win - meaning i'm not the best but i'm not the worst player here too. 

any level of players are welcomed but i prefer to play vs someone who i haven't played yet (:

p.s. i rush, sorry
Published on Sun, 07 Oct 2018 17:29:04 +0200
System notification


Information please play with me
DreadReapr joined !!
user
Published on Sun, 07 Oct 2018 17:27:16 +0200

i prefer 1vs1 phirpo, sorry

Dread - join (whenever ready) and i'll make the game (don't know how to start a game if there is noone joined in here, also sorry).

Somebody else - join in before Dread does
user
Published on Sun, 07 Oct 2018 07:39:57 +0200

no reqiest
user
Published on Sat, 06 Oct 2018 22:53:55 +0200

dito. or you join the 2vs2 with me, dr and lightform...
user
Published on Sat, 06 Oct 2018 16:21:16 +0200

ok - will make the game in a bit - any race/class or mod/s requests?
user
Published on Sat, 06 Oct 2018 10:22:14 +0200

if nobody play with u, i can. lets do the square medium map