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Game #1213 | Jean-Keika

keika vs  Jean_de_Metz


Match Details

Played:2020-05-13
Rating 2 - Nice Game
Amount of Humans:2
Kind of game:   PBEM
Game-value: 47
Result Player Classes Races Team Points Extra Points Missed Points Quitter Rate
1 keikaDreadnoughtDwarves11100here
2 Jean_de_MetzDreadnoughtDwarves2-110-20here
Posts to the game:
user
Published on Fri, 15 May 2020 21:26:12 +0200

Written by Hiliadan

I've used the Sanctum's MCU only once, in the first 4x2 game and it didn't really pay off because my Resurgent Mystics just died vs Jean's armies. ^^

I feel like the MCU system is not really effective because most of the time, you can't build the upgrades early enough. But making them cheaper would make them too OP.

user
Published on Thu, 14 May 2020 21:30:44 +0200

Written by Jean_de_Metz

I didn't see any good opportunities for me in that game and now, after you have added some information about your empire, I don't see them as well =) For example, I had about 4 dwarf priests and 2 musketeers produced and the income was already pretty low. My mana situation was horrible: 8 mana + 10 I believe, so couldn't even compete with you in the drone war. Meditate boar riders and priests with resurgence would have easily countered my own tier 2 units and I don't believe you would have left me alone for 15-20 more turns so that I could build some towns and cannons. 

But maybe it was a bad decision to surrender, who knows. You can add your opinion here, Keika, I would appreciate it.
Published on Thu, 14 May 2020 21:20:27 +0200

Confirmed by keika

I am kinda gave up to build class-oriented strategy for dreadnought in duels, so I didn't even research engineers in class skills tree.
I focused on empire upgrades and boosting economy and didn't build much army except of a few t1 just to defend cities from scouts.

I had adept peace keeper specialization and from the start I decided to reach good alignment as soon as possible and try to build my army based on boar riders with meditate.

I bought peace with independents and vassalized draconians, dwarves, goblins and also giant and archon dwellings, and had more than 200/100 net income near the end of the game.

Early game I tried to find the nearest independents/dwelling and unfortunately scouted hostile giants. I made peace with them only in midgame, but still they didn't give me any quest and I managed to vassalized them one turn before Jean reach them.

I got quest from draconians and they gave me elder, not so bad but also not good, because they were too slow for my army.
Of course I have focused on leveling theocrat and with convert tried to convert good units.
With quite many opportunities (with immolation and sometimes noxious vulnerability) I was able to convert only goblin's beetle and scoundrel, so I can't say that MC changed the game. Even divine justicars didn't come in handy in this particular game, because in only one challenging fight for the first sanctum I didn't lose any units, but of course in later game it could be game changing ability.

With sanctum in city domain I wanted to produce forge priests with resurgence along with boar riders with meditate from the throne, everything was almost ready, but it didn't happen because Jean decided to surrender too early after our first encounter.


My part of the map:


user
Published on Wed, 13 May 2020 21:57:11 +0200

Written by Hiliadan

I don't think you can really say "I was beaten by a class without any class units produced by it. That's a pity, I was hoping for a nice dreadnought confrontation here."
First you surrendered early so we can't know what would have happened.

And based on your description, you were beaten because you were delayed early game.

Published on Wed, 13 May 2020 20:42:14 +0200

Written by novograd

divine justicals really everthing!.

I'm sure 11level theo better than 2of other heroes except AD

user
Published on Wed, 13 May 2020 20:22:33 +0200

We both decided to pick random leaders and it suddenly turned out to be a mirror match.  We started in the underground. Unfortunately for me, Keika's start was better (a better vassal and a draconian village nearby) and his leader's specs were more useful.  I guess the peacekeaper skill might have affected his relationship with dwellings and he managed to vassalize both ug dwellings - archons and giants. At least, I took the fey dwelling on the surface. 

This is a screenshot of my domain. I was very unlucky to get an agressive vassal who declared war on me. I ran there once I bought Rialto (very good!) on turn 3 and captured the village even being able to take ancient ruines with my starting army. There I spotted a lost soul camp and had to clear it too.  


So on turn 8 I was coming back to my domain where there were 2 more indies camps. It took a lot of time to clear everything...

Once I dealt with them I took some quickly produced tier 2 units and ran to the center of the map because I had previously spotted some key objects there: the giants dwelling, a sanctum, a wizards tower, a dungeon a bit futher...with a regrowth shrine nearby to take any of this stuff pretty easily. 

The place was pretty far away, probably closer to Keika than to me. Anyway, when I got there I saw this:

I am playing on another laptop and haven't yet set the english language in the game so you might not be able to understand the whole thing...Let me just tell you that a 12 level theocrat was waiting for me there with an elite converted big beetle and some other good units.  It was impossible for me to defeat that stack. Moreover, I couldn't even attack with the aim of defeating some valuable units because of the resurgence ability. I had to retreat.

After that Keika took this place. 


Once he cleared his second sanctum with no losses and got a tier 3 elem there I surrended because I couldn't stop him from taking the wizards tower in 2 turns after that and then going further in the direction of my domain clearing the dungeon. I couldn't counterattack his domain because there was only one way to his domain through the center of the map and he was blocking it.  I was way behind in mana, summons (elems vs drons) and would be no competition in knowledge because of the towers).  I could have returned to my domain and try to defend but I didn't see any advantages in my position so took the decision to end my suffering =)

We had a very close military score.


But my position was weaker here because I produced many units and spent all the gold on it while he obtained some units from convert/quests so he was able to invest this gold into vassalizing and upgrading his domain. 

That was a positionaly loss, once again a theocrat hero made the game and I was beaten by a class without any class units produced by it. That's a pity, I was hoping for a nice dreadnought confrontation here.

Anyway, only good things can be said to Keika here.  He was able to show a perfect and fast training of his heroes.  My Rialto was only level 9 while his theo was already a killing machine.  Great tactical battles, great scouting and perfect understanding of the strategy - I was beaten, that's all =) Thanks for the game^^

user
Published on Wed, 13 May 2020 20:22:33 +0200

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Published on Fri, 08 May 2020 23:04:36 +0200
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Jean-Keika
Tournament rules, random leaders.
Published on Fri, 08 May 2020 23:04:36 +0200
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