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Game #511 Tournament game#28 | Round 2 : 2017 PBEM Duel Tournament #28

El_Lobo vs  Bishmanrock


Match Details

Played:2017-04-15
Rating 2 - Nice Game
Amount of Humans:2
Kind of Report:2017 PBEM Duel Tournament
Kind of game:   PBEM
Game-value: 37
Result Player Classes Races Team Points Extra Points Missed Points Quitter Rate
1 El_LoboRogueGoblins225120here
2 BishmanrockDreadnoughtDwarves100-25here
Posts to the game:
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Written by marcuspers
They will be announced in the Tournament PBEM Player Pool at the very least. They tend to fill up quick though, but if you subscribe at the Tournament Pool, then you will get an email, and can decide there and then <smiletext0>
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Written by Bishmanrock
Where can I hear more about them? I'm not sure what I'll be like in a months time but would like to keep in touch about them at the very least!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Written by marcuspers
Oh and I forgot to say, it's really nice to hear that the Acadamy games are useful! There is a lack of communication in my opinion, but still useful in many ways I can imagine. If you are interested Bishmanrock, I can host a game in a months time (the first Acadamy game is at turn 45 now and are really heating up!).
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Written by Bishmanrock
Yes I was Dwarf Dreadnought, not quite sure why it's saying different. Perhaps it messed up when I swapped the teams over to be correct, or maybe I just was being idle when setting it
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Written by marcuspers
Above its stated as Theocrat Dwarf, but maybe its an error in the display. Hiliadan can probably edit it!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Confirmed by El_Lobo
Thanks marcus. Yes, i change it already. Bishmanrock played the dwarven dreadnought and I played the goblin rogue.
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Written by marcuspers
Bishmanrock played Dreadnought right?

Congratulations to the win El Lobo!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Last battle. I was a bit lucky converting the T3 troll 5 or 6 turns before. In that battle I faced two trolls and two spiders. After one spider webbed my elite goblin slaughter the battle was on the rocks! If the converting would have failed it could happen that I lose my leader and the whole army!

user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Written by Hiliadan
If the class/race are mixed, you can choose "Edit the report" in the drop down menu to make them right. <smiletext0>
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Confirmed by El_Lobo
Thanks for the game! I think it would help you a lot do play a learn game with an experienced player where you can see the tactical battle. If you want to we can ask for a 2vs2 with some experienced players. I already learned a lot from marcuspers and markymark in the learn game I startet weeks ago and of course in the first round of the tournament against gabthegab.

Edit: The race/class is mixed up!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

I surrendered because El_Lobo's next move would've been obvious (or at least I'd hope, he was right next to my capital having killed my leader!). Good game El_Lobo, you came at me from out of the dark!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

511 | Age of Wonders 3
Match has been reported, please confirm!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Match has been reported, please confirm!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

You have quite a lot of them. I killed about 5 or 6 I think. And they are not innocent, they explode when they are dying!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Noo, my scouts! My lovely, innocent scouts!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

The temperature is rising up! <smiletext0>
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Sounds like we might be evenly matched then! The only other games I have going on at the moment are a 2v2 where it looks like I'm going to be the first one out, and another that seems to be more role playing than competitive. Hopefully this game is enjoyable and a good learning experience for us both <smiletext0>
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Same for me. The first round was my first 1one1 online game. It was more a warm up for my opponent than a match. ^^
At the moment I play a 3vs.3 learn game. Two experienced players and one rookie in every team. I can see the turns of my teammates and hopefully learn something. Unfortunately I havn't had a good beginning... 
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Heh, don't worry, my last opponent made short work of me, I'm mostly a casual player so don't expect me to be swarming you by Turn 3 <smiletext0>
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

In the first round I havn't had problems finishing the game in time. Hopefully you need longer to beat me than gabthegab. ^^
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Posted on forums with the issues we encountered.

If it's okay with you, I've set the timer to four days. That means you should be fine for weekends, but also means if anyone slips (I unfortunately skipped one or two in my last match), means it doesn't get stalled. Let me know if that works for you!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

"Confirm game has started. Turn timer was doing something weird, instantly said it had expired when I started the game" Yes, it's a known bug I reported to Triumph a while ago. So it's better not to put turn timer on for the 1st turn but activate it only after.
If you could help me re-report it (because I checked and it appears I had not given them confirmation afterwards), that would be great and probably help solve it faster. You can quote my post where I explain the "2/" here http://aow.triumph.net/forums... and says that's what you experienced.
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

It works fine now. I have done my first turn. Are you fine with playing without timer? I can do more than one turn a day but at the weekend i could be that I need more than 24 hours. 
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Strange, it said turn timer elapsed under your name, but also said it was your turn!

I've removed the turn timer entirely for now - I'll reactivate it on my turn. Can you have another go and let me know if it works? The error at least disappeared for me.
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

I can't make a turn. The game said "Not your turn" (time elapsed).

What is that?
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Confirm game has started. Turn timer was doing something weird, instantly said it had expired when I started the game, so I've set it to two days for now so that it doesn't shortchange either of us. Apologies again for the delay in getting set up. Good luck, El_Lobo!
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100
System notification


Round 2 : 2017 PBEM Duel Tournament #28
Please click here to read the rules.

In order to avoid advantaging one team or the other, for each match, the team who will host the match was randomly selected. The first team in the "turn order" above (who is also the team on top in the tree here must host the game.

Any of the players in the team can host. The host must play in #2 position in the turn order (please check rules for more details).
Tournament Game #28 Round 2 !

When players do not show up for their match, the Tournament Judges have the right to change the match!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Looks good, you can start, good luck!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Third times a charm, hopefully! Looked like it kept all my old settings when setting this up so far as as my glance it looked the same.

I haven't put a turn timer on yet as it instantly appeared to start ticking down (not sure if it actually was or not but thought I'd just be safe), so I'll set it to 1 day the moment the game's good to go.

Again, let me know if you spot anything, but from what I could see it kept the same settings.
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

More than alignment issues, if omen of dove comes and you cannot the enemy because you are not at war with him. Even worse.
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

I spotted 1 issue: you need to activate Teams so that each player starts in one team (I and II) so that you start at war and do not need to declare war (which - among other things - create alignment issues).
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hello! I've now re-uploaded the game, same details as before. Hopefully the screenshots should be attached here as evidence too. Fingers crossed everything should be fine, but if any of you notice anything wrong just let me know!









user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Yup, no worries. I'll rehost everything and screenshot/send details once I'm home tonight <smiletext0>
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hello! I guess that's because Bishmanrock hosted with him on slot #1 and then changed his slot to #2 after game was hosted. Then when you try to join on slot #1, it crashes. I reported that issue a while ago to Triumph but they didn't pay much attention to it. Maybe report here to help me convince them to fix it: http://aow.triumph.net/forums... (see my post #249792 http://aow.triumph.net/forums... that's the 1/ in it)

Regarding settings, @Bishmanrock: it is actually not possible for your opponent to see 75% of the settings, only a few (as shown in the screenshot from El Lobo) are displayed, the rest are known only by the host. That's why we ask for screenshots done when you are in the process of hosting the game. You cannot take them afterwards.
So I suggest you rehost entirely, that will also solve the "join & crash" issue. Sorry for the hassle, but it will be easier for your next match, as you'll know the process.
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100





I can't choose a hero, the game crashes before that point. I see the following screen and when I click on the button where the curser is the game crashes.
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Sounds like a know bug. Instead of select already made leader, create a new?
Try that, and if it don't work we will investigate!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

I entered the game but when I click on "Auswählen" (could be select or choose in english) the game crashes. Tried it 3 times right now I havn't got a clue whats the problem.

https://www.my-league.com/games/273/downloads/screens/47759/273/47759Failure.jpg

"The program does not work right in due to  a problem. The program is closed and you will be informed when a solution is available."

user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Sorry, perhaps I was unclear

I've tried to set up the game with all the settings as mentioned in the guide and on the BETA branch. When I said I sent it to El_Lobo I just mean to confirm that I had indeed done that, and that it shouldn't be different to the tournament settings, before we start.

I'll get a screenshot up to confirm as soon as I can though!
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hello!

I guess that's fine, but the judges can then stop the match and you need to rehost if any major mistakes.
But, on the other hand, all settings are up for discussion, and as long as you agree that's also fine.
An exception would be, for example, if the game wasn't hosted with beta branch.

With that said, I dont see any reason not to post the settings (screenshots) here and we can keep the discussion on the forum.
user
Published on Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

I've now hosted the match. Details sent to El_Lobo. El_Lobo to check details of match to make sure I haven't made any silly mistakes. I did go through the guide so should be fine but I like to make sure. The only thing the guide didn't mention was difficulty, but I'm guessing setting all that in Advanced overrides it anyway?

Either way, El_Lobo to let me know if there's any issues. If not then I'll post here once the match has started.