Game #832 | Forged Ones vs 2 #2

Hello, Ilaanor. 
It was a great pleasure to play with you. Congratulations on the birth of your child, it's incredible news, I am very happy for you!
Family is our life, there is nothing more important than it. I wish you and your family the very best in life and I hope we will meet again at least for a while, maybe in Planetfall, who knows.
- Your friend,
Jean

oh man - this is the best part of AoW3 - meeting nice people and having a great community. Good luck with the much more important game of Family Ilaanor - hope to see you again. maybe in Planetfall (:

SO...My second game with xlnt as a team versus. Should have been practice and test before starting the tournament but in the end proved to be quite opposite.

SO, starting position wasnt best as only way for me to go was to the east over water. In the end it was probably a blessing as I cleared two dungeons on my way to the continent shore. I was pretty satisfied with my battles and overall playing. Our opponents were hidden for a long time so we explored and did our best to prepare for them. My 3rd hero was flying sorcerer which proved to be great addition.

Turn 11 - still no clue about our enemies.

Mahimka is trying to get some info...

And tried to do a sneak attack on the water. I spotted him and used my two floating/flying heroes plus support units to block the way to my domain. And it worked:

First meating with Jeans army:

At that time our team communication becamo more frequent and so those were our great plans:


Unfortunately, because I went for the sphynx temple and Inn in the south I was one turn behind Jean to enter the UG. I thought he would join with mahimka's forces to defeat xlnt who started to press mahimka around the dragon dwelling. So i tried at first to lure Jean's army to attack my two weaker stack with main army hidden in shadows which doesnt worked out and then I decided to try the luck against him in the UG..and I didnt turn out very well for me.


After my defeat I recieved oitem giving invisibility and tried to sneak behind the lines. Of course I didnt check properly who can see me..


Apying on Jean..


When my second stack of crusaders and evangelist got caught in the UG unprepared from the dragons it was decided for good. I was pretty happy and satisfied how I played the game except for some decisions in late game but at that time time was pretty constreined for me and I would probably do some things differently if having enough time for it (and mind set). Xlnt gave me a lot of good tips and it was fun to play with him - as usual. We could have joined our forces sooner and went for it together or at least press sooner but it didnt happened.

Unfortunately this is my last game here. Now with bigger family there are things to do in real life which must have priority from gaming. I was glad that we played this 2vs2 as it showed me that my participation in the tournament is not possible and anyway playing 1vs1 is as well not an option anymore. Definitely not in a satisfying pace.

Have a nice time here guys, it was fun to be part of this community for few months and have a fun with planetfall on the horizon. Thought it will last longer but that's life. And life is nice. Bye.

Confirmed by mahimka

What not-common spell you are talking about?
Ah the screen took a Century to load. Cloaked in Shadows, a balance mod change.
But I Think the description is unclear and Hili wanted to change it.

Hello, Ilaanor and Xlnt!
Thank you for being our opponents in this match. You played well. Also many credits to my teammate - Mahimka - who was a real superstar in this game. Let me write a few words about it.
If we take a look at the final score we will see the following:

But it's not that simple. The military score shows that I was in fact the weakest in terms of the army.

On this screenshot Ilaanor's score is very low but that's only because he lost the decisive fights to Mahimka. Let's see what was happening on turn 26:

Our opponents were definitely very powerful while I was much behind. What's the reason for it?
The answer is pretty simple: we got lucky
That's a screenshot of Mahimka's domain: 

Udranad is the dragon dwelling which happened to be very close to his domain, we met it on turn 4 or 5, I don't remember. It gave good quests immediately, was very friendly and we decided to buy and build it. I sent plenty of gold to Mahimka so that he could hurry the production a lot. I myself was building my empire to make sure I won't run out of gold, slowly producing some cannons with golems and engineeres (later I took metropoly quest and managed to produce any unit in one turn with more than 150 production points). And when our opponents came to us it was already too late.
But first we were almost caught by Ilaanor

A not very common spell, many players don't know it (like Mahimka, for example) so we weren't caught here only because I was once again paranoid and checked everything with drons.
After careful consideration, I decided to try to get advantage of narrow underground tunnels.

And block him with my strongest stack.

Btw, this is a kind of superb stack I have been dreaming about for a long time! Secondary heroes are dreadnought and druid, so when I attacked mythical objects I had both ancestral spirits and summon siege engine available. The last spell proved to be good as I summoned trebuchet or cannons and was able to rely on them constantly reloading and repairing machines with dread heroes.
I hoped that ai would cast them too and I would get advantage in the fight against Ilaanor. It didn't but I still won the fight.

We protected the dwelling and very soon Mahimka got control all over the map playing very well.


Once he ran out of gold completely he gave me the dwelling and I was also ready to meet our opponents with stacks of machines and several elems+dragons.

Confirmed by IIaanor

i surrendered after making sure my opponents are ok with this - no point to drag the game, not vs players of this caliber (;

i'm happy and grateful to have been able to show Ilaanor what real tier1 2vs2 fight looks like. Sadly it mostly looks like losing

We did a somewhat good start - i was able to get towns fast, killing guards and converting to ghouls. I asked Ilaanor to focus on getting t3 units before Gorila Tactics but he went for that little OP help during battles instead for the MC - i can't honestly say which is better but i can surely say which is faster

anyway - he had some nice converts and was crossing the map and we saw no enemy, no scout, no town - nothing! Empty map for 15-20 turns!!!

and suddenly there were fly-ing units trying to sneak by and we had to counter by moving in the water... Ilaanor did a nice job managing to control the flying stack and pushing the map, clearing sites and scouting a bit. i was so afraid that he will get ambushed and frankly - he was not keeping all his army stacks together and was a bit open but still there was some great movement for 3-4 turns.

After that i found the Dragons dwell, the 2-3-4 Red Dragons + an army of t3 converted units and some gold medal units too and all that just when i was getting my ghoul strike online and trying to cover some piece of the map for myself... we were 2-3 turns too late i guess and it was all downhill from there - i was not able to stop the dragon dwelling, we couldn't get behind the frontlines and attack their economy and there was no stopping a flying stack of t4s. Ilaanor did some attacks that were not something i would have done but had some success.

my worst mistakes were:
1. not having a stack of banshee ready
2. didn't push the map when my partner was doing it to split the forces and have a chance to attack the dragon dwelling

thanks to Jean and Mahimka for the lesson

Match has been reported, please confirm!

But it is not my fault, Xlnt
We were really lucky with the dragon dwelling being very close to Mahimka's domain, I admit. Sorry for that
The battle against Ilaanor was absolutely mad, ai played very shitty on both sides.
You should still have chances there because my leader is in the void and half of the army dead.

well excuse me for trying to beat you guys - it's turn 28-ish and you have at least 2 red dragons, produced!, summon earth elementals and i believed i had a good game

it's not fair Jean

Hello guys, my playing will slow down in next two weeks due to more things going on irl. Will do my best though.

Hi all! It seems the issue is due to a change to the spell in the 14/07 update. So the spell probably disappeared at that time. Unfortunately, it means the spell will be there only in games launched after that date. And I'm afraid you'll have to work without the spell in this game Jean (it's a technical limitation from Triumph, the spell is given only at game start)... Sorry about that.

In the screenshot is listed only mod with problem of versuon so thats why is not there sdnr mod . Its correct game 

Hi, the screenshot below shows only the beta branch, not the SDNR mod. Are you sure you're not mixing 2 games?

Please send to me a screenshot of your strategic spellbook. That seems weird, the spell should be there.

Hello,

Jean I think that the spell was added later during the update to beta 1.25 which happened on 2nd July according to the changelog. But that should not change anything on that the spell shoud be in the spellbook. Cannot it be on a second page? I think it will be better if i hold on with my turn so it would be possible to revert your turn if needed? Only that way i cannot check if it is in my spellbook. Maybe i will see later today during a different session. Or you take a look in a different game. 

Hello everyone!
A very strange thing has happened to me in this game. I need Hiliadan's assistance here and your advice what to do next. Let me explain what happened:
We are playing on PBEM Balance mode 1.24 (Beta) + Strong defenders normal rewards mode. My starting position was mediocre since a long range of rapids cut my way to the vassal and a rich part of the map. Fortunately for me, at turn 1 I found a spell in the spellbook to remove rapids on a hex (costs 12 mana). I am absolutely sure about this fact. The only problem was it works only in domain. So in order to make my way to the vassal I needed to produce a builder, send it with the troops I wanted to move there to the rapids hex, where I was about to build a fortress (or increase the domain radius of the throne city - both ways were possible), then remove the rapids on the hex and build a bridge.
I was going to do it this turn today. What do you thing happened to me when I opened my turn?  
I saw no such spell in the spellbook! It has vanished! I am stuck with a builder and army there not knowing what to do!
Please, help XD
- Jean

hi all

i'll be on a short vacation - 10 days, back next month (:

sorry for the delay

Hi guys, im sorry but i had to restart my last turn due to battery failure on my notebook. As it is happening more that often during recent tome, i will take care of it asap so my computer will be working fine again. My deeply apology for this, I will wait with my next turn till i will have new battery so hopefully during next week.

was not able to play my turn last night - sorry for the delay

Np, Jean, try to figure it out, hopefully we will be able to continue soon and without any problems.

PS. Anyway I'm not sure I will have so much time nowadays.

As I said on the chat, try turning on debug mode (or turning it off).

Now I am completely confused. I can't enter the game at all. It sais this:

While I have the same mod turned on (as in previous turns)


P.S.Hiliadan, please, help!!

Hello, guys.
My laptop stopped working today while I was making the turn. Not sure about the reason, could you give me some time to figure it out? I promised Illaanor to play fast so I will try to understand the problem and make my turn as fast as I can but it might take 1-2 days.
My sincere apologises.
- Jean

Game is up, only waiting for you guys to join it.

Game hosted, name: Forged Ones vs2 #2, pw: 222

I used the proposed set up for the new 2vs2 tournament (link: http://aow.triumph.net/forums... )

Images added. Good luck and have fun.

EDIT: I changed the map size to Medium (was Tournament). Is it ok for you? It should be closer to the new map format which will be used in the tourney.

Hello, me and xlnt are looking for a team we can play against. Will use the tournament settings as will be for the upcoming 2vs2 tournament.

Mods:
 - PBEM balance BETA
 - Strong Defenders Normal Rewards

Probably best a team which one will participate in the tourney as well.

mahimka joined !!

hey Jean - gl hf

Hi, welcome! We would like to train for the tournament so without the pbem++ mod. I will host it and post pictures asap so we can start the session.

Hello, guys!
I will be playing this game with Mahimka
Do you want to use PBEM++ or not this time?

Jean_de_Metz joined !!

xlnt joined !!