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Hi there - everybody.

I just opened up another FFA game to be played with some mods, the game will start as soon as 4 people have joined and settings have been discussed.

Link to the game: Modded FFA

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I'm sorry, but somehow I concluded that it was abused.

Nevermind my rant!

I deleted my post.

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Kwibus - how did you decide someone used the bug?
Hiliadan reacted very quickly and i believe only 2 people here know about the issue and it was found only recently.

I believe that if we have something to say - we should say it because propagating mediocrity will surely take us (as a community) on the spiral of deteriorating self-destruction. If someone cheat(ed) - we should talk about it, so speak with the judges, please (:

I'm very curious as to what this game breaking exploit is, however I agree that it is best to keep it a secret until it has been fixed. I think you should consider extending the deadline for tournament games for separate reasons: 
1) I think the time given is too short to begin with. A lot of games end after the first big fight and that seems to be what you are basing it on but games should be allowed to play out if that isn't the case; AOW3 can take a very long time to play.
2) The holidays undoubtedly caused most games to lose 1-2 weeks.

Hiliadan the reason I don't support nerfing Necromancer further is because I consider it on par with Theocrat in most situations and would favor buffing the weaker classes rather then nerfing the stronger. Also as it has already received considerable nerfs (especially T4 mind control immunity) I would like to see how that affects future games for a while before I can support further changes.

@Dreadreaper At some point with all games you have to decide what game type you are going to balance a game around. Generally competitive games are balanced around 1v1 play on maps of a specific setting. In this case we have had long established settings for tournament games and most tournaments are 1v1 competitions. With this in mind you can't defend the strength of classes, races, or units that are clearly superior in that format with the assertion that another is superior in settings that are completely opposite to what is played competitively. I think larger format games (which I usually prefer) can certainly be kept in mind when making changes, but the focus needs to be on the settings that are used for tournaments.

Thanks AlX for your job to investigate this bug, the devs also gave me the same answer after I reported the bug (since you told me to report it).

The devs won't put a fix for GoG player in 1 week, that's not possible. There will be a test phase and all this will likely take 2-3 months.
Hosts are free to pause their game on the website but for the tournament, I think it's very unlikely that we stop all games (we'll see, I asked the 2 other judges their opinion as usual). We need to take into account that there are less and less players playing AoW3 and our community is contracting, not expanding, especially the persons playing tournament. With each month, we lose players. I trust our players here and I feel the costs of losing 2-3 months very largely exceed the benefits of preventing zero player from cheating. If you had not shared the method to cheat, the chances of people cheating would be even lower. And if you have doubts about certain players, please share them with the admins.
I think 2-3 months matter, even for people who plan to play for 10 months. It matters for me at least.

Agree and congrats, very well done job! I'd give you a medal for getting a bug fixed (: This is the power of a good community!

I' ve got reply from Developer today regarding the exploit:

Hi Alex,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention! We will be looking into 
this, the fix for this will be at least a week out, with testing and 
new hot fix builds for steam and gog. But know we are on it!

Regards,
Eric Castermans
Gameplay Programmer - Triumph Studios

So I'd propose to stall games for a week, until the hole is patched.

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Cheat ... cheat everywhere!

Happy New Cheating Year :-)

I deleted AlX's post because I think his info belongs to the devs not the community. AlX, please come to the chat to discuss that.

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I´ve opened a FFA game with the thrilling title Yet another FFA - feel free to join and discuss whether or not to use mods. The game will be hosted when enough people have signed up in here. Cheers.

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Two duel games open:
More 1v1 PBEM (against Lightform)
not another 1vs1 tourney pract (against xlnt)

Feel free to start more 1vs1, 4 to 8 players FFA and team games!

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