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Spiel #523 Turnierspiel#20 | Round 3 : PBEM 2v2 team tournament 2016 #20

Skuns453Lirik902 vs  xlnt vs  Mr. Hawk vs  Tasslehoff


Match-Details

Gespielt:2017-04-28
Rating 2 - Gutes Spiel
Anzahl der Spieler:4
Art des Reportes:PBEM 2v2 team tournament 2016
Kind of game:   PBEM
Spiel-wert: 61
Resultat Spieler Classes Races Team Punkte Extra Punkte Nicht gewonnene Punkte Quitter Bewerte
1 Skuns453Lirik902NecromancerFrostlings233160hier
1 xlntNecromancerTigrans21300hier
2 Mr. HawkWarlordGoblins100-34hier
2 TasslehoffRogueHumans100-25hier
Beiträge zum Spiel:
Veröffentlicht am Wed, 28 Jun 2017 12:02:51 +0200

Good game
It was a nice game, fun, honest, and that's the important thing <smiletext1>
user
Veröffentlicht am Wed, 28 Jun 2017 11:42:52 +0200

Written by xlnt
What Mr. Hawk did in this game was UNSEEN before. I'm not Jean and i can't do reports with screenshots and all that and the community will not see what we have seen but this game was special!

Tass did play very well but what he did was standard and luck was with me in the 2 battles we did but that is not the point.

Skuns was NOT ready to give up and i can't explain how good it is to have a teammate that is ready to finish the battles i start

If we were NOT 2 Necro players - we wouldn't have the chance i believe... when most of my towns were captured i still had an impact on the game and i dare say it was a big impact. Not sure if it would have been possible with any other class.
Veröffentlicht am Wed, 28 Jun 2017 05:01:08 +0200

Written by Skuns453Lirik902
I agree that being a goblin is hard to play against necro  So maybe in the future you should re-qualify your Warlord into Draco station? 
Veröffentlicht am Tue, 27 Jun 2017 22:14:24 +0200

Confirmed by Mr. Hawk
First of all congratulations on your victory<smiletext23>, you played well and for a goblin like me it was also difficult to fight against two undead adversaries.
Great game, epic battles, lots of suspense and ... as long as I like, 94 rounds and without even a game restart: maybe very honest, maybe very lucky

In the last fight I had not seen all your army, I only saw two stacks and that's why I came across you, however my destiny was written and I was trying to catch you unprepared.

Maybe in the future we will make a rematch<smiletext0>, at the next time!
Veröffentlicht am Tue, 27 Jun 2017 21:53:34 +0200

Written by Skuns453Lirik902
This is the screenshot of the Score of this session: Screen of victory
Veröffentlicht am Tue, 27 Jun 2017 21:48:27 +0200

Written by Skuns453Lirik902
@xlnt 
For my teammate - thanks for all of your supports in this session  <smiletext21> It was entirely your merit in restraining Tasselhoff's forces and, later, in the killing of his leader  
And even more so, I couldn't fight with Hawk troops and win without your financial help. Otherwise I would have been lose this session - solus (if I stayed to play against him one on one)   <smiletext6> 
But we won and we are good fellows  Good teamwork, as I think <smiletext1> <smiletext24>
Veröffentlicht am Tue, 27 Jun 2017 21:28:10 +0200

Written by Skuns453Lirik902
@Mr.Hawk
Finally, we've finished this session  There was a lot of green blood under the brown banners   Your resistance was nice <smiletext23> Your will to win is impressive   Your strategy is cool    You are a worthy opponent, I hope for future battles. Maybe even in one team-camp   
Thanks for the great interesting session. <smiletext23> <smiletext21>  And maybe you could win if your teammate was more cautious at the end  
But I didn't understand two things. Firstly, before our last battle did you intentionally set up your stacks under my attack? And secondly, why did you attack my stacks near your last city at that time by your second (not the main) army of 4 stacks?  Yes, you had some chances to win, but your stacks already didn't have buffs from the Shrine of Angel (except one of them, which wasn't strong). I thought you will preference to escape and regroup  But you sacrificed all of your stacks in some kind of suicidal attack <smiletext6>   It was bravely,   but very stupidly  
Good luck in your future sessions <smiletext23> 
Veröffentlicht am Wed, 24 May 2017 15:39:05 +0200

Written by Skuns453Lirik902
Hi, guys. I came back from the vacation, but I'll be busy for some period <smiletext6> Sorry for such big delay <smiletext21>  I'm interested to finalize this session by someone's defeat <smiletext1> 
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Sorry guys, I'm two days trying all the mods but i can not find the right or the right combination. All versions are too new or too old or incompatible. I just have to reopen the turn, surrender and pass it but I can not do it. If I quit the game from the main menu, before the download, do you think the turn will change to the next player? <smiletext6>
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Sorry for my delay but I was busy.
Now the game is really ended, I surrendered to you. Unfortunately I made a bad mistake, I confused a hero of Skuns with your leader, my only salvation was to kill him, but I was wrong and I bring my armies to the slaughter. Anyway, I did not do very well.
Good guys, you played well and it was a nice match.

But... the mod still changed  and I saved the game with the old version <smiletext6><smiletext6><smiletext6><smiletext6> now I need to install another old version, just a moment please
user
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Confirmed by xlnt
Confirmed by xlnt
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Confirmed by Skuns453Lirik902
Confirmed by Skuns453Lirik902
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Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

We'll further improve the system later (I'm thinking about a list where you NEED TO select either to send to everyone or to your team, so you can't forget) but several people forgot to check the box when they should have, which resulted in team messages being sent to everyone, and thus preferred the box checked by default in team games. The opposite is not as problematic and can be edited easily.
user
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Yep ... I would prefer to have the checkbox unchecked by default.
user
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Related to what you say Skuns:
+ some of you are posting and then either deleting the messages or making them "Viewable only for team members" which is probably making notifications being displayed with no message visible. For example I don't see any message from Tass here, but there was a notification in the chat saying he posted.

@xlnt: thanks for your good words <smiletext0>
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

To Tass
Some earlier I received, like you, a few reminders at Played game sessions when there appears only 1 new message <smiletext6> But it had been fixed already and now it works correctly. 
Few days ago I've got the same (up to 5 reminders for 1 new message) at this, still ongoing at that moment, session  But I think if this is not a frequent occurrence then we can ignore it  Because the admins of this site have a lot of work to fix bugs which are more important 
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

To Hawk
About sunguards - xlnt doesn't use their full power in this session   So you have a big bonus with this   <smiletext1>
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Exactly, that is why if a match is to be won with the points it must be at the end of the first time limit (two months). In just two weeks I do not think I have the chance to kill at least one of you because, rightly, you would not risk losing the leader and the capital, and that is why I do not want to continue the game this way. You play well.


Damn your necro sunguards, I think they are too strong in relation to their class and price / production / protection / maintenance<smiletext1>
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Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Funny game in the end!

Ciao ciao to everyone

Edit: damned "Only Team and friends" checkbox!!!!

Edit bis: Evertime my teammate posts something, I receive 5 email!!!!
user
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Not sure what to say but i want to say something so here we go:

1. Thanks to all 
- Tass did a good fight and had nice economy, far better then mine and he suffered a hero kill and throne lose but was polite about it even when he felt that necro is still not that well balanced.
- Mr.Hawk did the centurion quest!!! i was like .... WHAT?! brilliant strategy with good results and this made the game so interesting
- Hiliadan, for being a judge and taking all the negatives away from us and knowing that we will NOT like what he says, no matter what he says.
- my teammate Skuns, who was not too angry at my play (i'm trying to play less games for the last 6-7 months and it shows - hehe)

2. The tournament play here needs better rules and discussions and polishing and we proved that here

3. it doesn't feel good to win (i believe it's the same to lose) in this way ): The game right now can go both ways - we can win, we can lose to Mr.Hawk as he has such good army stacks. We have double casting and we can control the map somewhat better. I can't say honestly WE WON - i can't admit we lost, no way - so the only thing i can say is a big Thanks to all and i hope we make another game (at least 1  )
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Written by Mr. Hawk
Don't worry guys, I want to continue this match and do not fight for the points but to try to win or lose by merit <smiletext1>
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Written by Skuns453Lirik902
It's sad to hear this. <smiletext6> I was hoped that we can solve our problem by peaceful way  - with a lot of goblins blood  Come on, guys, do not give up like this. <smiletext17>  
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Written by Mr. Hawk
Congratulations, you won this round but not yet (for now) this game.
I'm sorry, but as I said, I do not want to continue this game with the time limit and without rules, moreover the judges have not yet answered my question: how would the winner be declared at the end of two weeks if the game was not over yet?
I have already explained my thoughts about points and you know that you do not agree with me, so from my point of view we lost.
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Confirmed by Mr. Hawk
Confirmed by Mr. Hawk
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

523 | Age of Wonders 3
Match has been reported, please confirm!
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Match has been reported, please confirm!
user
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hello all! So after discussion among judges, we confirm the decision to extend the duration of your match by 2 weeks to decide a winner. It looks like you started to play again on the 25th so the deadline could be the 9th of May at 23:59:59 GMT+1 time.
I am going to clarify the rules by indicating that a replay is only 1 option but that the judges will study the best solution in case of score ties.

We hope it can work for you as you initially said it could.

Good luck for the final turns!
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

To Hiliadan
Thanks  
user
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

If you have the new visuals, it means it's v1.21. But you all seem to agree to play with it, so no problem.
You can get the changelog of v1.21 here:
PBEM and Single Player Balance Mod v1.21 released on its beta branch
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

I used the right mod, when I received the last turn from you (Skuns) I also received a message that the mod had changed. I think we're playing with version 1.2, but something has changed the same (at least in the graphics, other I do not know).

But who cares, we finish quickly the game that this story is getting tired and boring me.
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

To Hiliadan
It's not our fault <smiletext6>  Hawk was not so attentive to this and our team had no choice but to follow him  because we do not  want spent our play time vainly. Or he did it on purpose   
If you do not mind please send me PM with v.1.21 which, as you think, can inflict on the strategy  I just want prepare and make decision should we revert turns or not.   But if you are busy it's ok then we continue as is 
user
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Well... it's not like I said very explicitely not to update to v1.21... and spent a lot of time to test and explain how to do it.

If all 3 of you agree, there is no issue but it's just that it may cause some disturbances in your strategies as the changes from v1.2 to v1.21 are quite significant.
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

To Hiliadan
We have already played 1 circle with v.1.21 (not 1 full turn - from Hawk to me). We made some actions and decisions. If we revert our turns it can change defense strategy of Mr Hawk <smiletext6>  Why we should stay only v.1.2?  Because I can't recognize my own troops?   Is it so important? 
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Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

No you should not continue with v1.21, at least not if you play for the tournament. (I haven't heard of Fistandantilus and Markymark... I send them the PM again)
Mr. Hawk, do you remember how you played last turn? Could you please maybe check in your AoW3 launcher what are the mods listed to see if v1.2 somehow automatically updated itself?
user
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

when i received my turn and tried to play it with the 1.2 mode i got this: 

imgur.com/a/5Daxl

seems like the turn was played with 1.21 mode - it's not a big issue for me - just making a note about this

so i guess we continue with 1.21, correct?
user
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Hiliadan - comeon man (: i'm not that stupid, this is only a screenshot to show you that i did the 1.2 installation correctly (:

Thanks Mr.Hawk - i'll do what you suggest
user
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

You checked the wrong mod in the launcher, you checked v1.21 but you need to check v1.2. I guess that's the reason why it gives you the "update message". So please launch with v1.2 and try again.
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

I think you can do the update without problem, it also happened to me, but it does not touch version 1.2
user
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

I followed the instructions on how to continue with the 1.2 of the mode but there is a warning message that this will upgrade the version of the game and i need a clear GO to play my turn ):

http://imgur.com/a/Ihvhg
http://imgur.com/a/OVjKN

please take a look at the screenshots and advise
user
Veröffentlicht am Thu, 01 Jan 1970 01:00:00 +0100

Guys, I'm sorry that it is causing troubles like this and that Tass is especially unhappy with me. I am waiting for Fistandantilus and Markymark reply to my PM earlier (after my last message). Please remain patient. (also Mr. Hawk, I'm writing to you in the chat, but it seems you don't see it: www.the-battlefield.com/aow3/index.php?page=community)

For the 0 score for dead players, for me it really seemed logical, so I never thought it was necessary to say it, sorry about that. We're surely precise it in the rules.
Other than that, I'll wait other judges' feedback before commenting further.