Spiel #701 | Rematch Bears vs Hamster/Panda

Confirmed by Skuns453Lirik902

Confirmed by xlnt

Match has been reported, please confirm!

Match has been reported, please confirm!

A heads-up: following up on the new version of the balance mod, an update to PBEM++ has been released to Steam. You can see the details in the change log, tl;dr: we've added the Gas masks upgrade to Dreadnought heroes that was supposed to be shipped with v1.22 of the balance mod, but unexpectedly didn't make it due to time constraints.

I will go to the vacation from 1-st to 8-th of November. I'll try to play my turns in time, but it might be delays during this period. So I'll be appreciate you, Jean, if you will not turn on the timer this period.  Sorry, guys, for this

Hlnt, I was really thinking that we were winning this game...then I found out you had a complete floating stack of fairies XD
So now it's me who is running away and, I guess, you're still a favorite in the match. 

): sorry to hear that Jean - i could say this is because you attacked my poor knights baaaat it would not help i guess

speedy recovery man and don't worry about the game - there will be others, as i just have to find a way to beat you two

Very sorry to hear this. But the health is more important thing so we will wait when you'll recuperate. Don't hurry up because a disease may return if a patient is not fully recovering.
I wish you all the best. I hope you'll get well soon  

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I have to inform you, guys, that unfortunately I got a quite severe conjunctivitis and I'm recommended not to use pc at all till the disease is gone. So I'll make a short break in turns now. 

I'm gonna turn off the timer.
I'm sorry.
Jean

Thanks, my friend. But it's not needing to turn off the timer - I can play this session at my working PC. I can't play on it our tourney session because working PC has a problem and can close the game at any moment (I don't want to get Ironman notification at the tourney  ).

i saw it but in our tournament game Skuns said he may not be able to play until Saturday ):
i don't care for the points here but this game really has the potential to be good for us and maybe a little bit harder for you two to win (i hope we can give you a good fight this time) - so please turn off the timer.

I hope everyone has already noticed that turn timer is on now

Jean, maybe you're right about turn timer. 2-day timer is better for me. Sorry for unforeseen delays because of I was some busy 

I have to say that I'm willing to either turn on the turn timer (1 or 2 days, up to you) or just finish this game. Skuns, you play your turns too slow =)) so that I can't follow the actions in the game. 

Hi, guys. 
I must inform you that I'm going to the vacation trip from 24-th of September to 1-st of October. I'll try to play my turns as soon as possible but maybe I'll have not an internet connection there at all at this period. Sorry for a possible delays.   

xlnt forgot as usual to uncheck the team setting for messages at this site so I have to re-send his last message to you, guys  

xlnt(Team of Bears)  2017/08/04

hey guys 

time for me to take a rest - i will be back after 2 weeks 

@xlnt  I wish you to have a good holidays 

i see - good points, thanks for the explanation. i will try to test if fast research of a combat heavy spec can open a OP tech - like summon t4 unit. i joined the game but i will choose a combo tomorow - i want to have some time to think about what i want to test.

Regarding casting spells on your teammates' cities: there has always been a lot of spells that are allowed to be used like this, but there wasn't really any visible logic to the split between the casters-cities-only spells and friendly-cities-supported spells. Mana fuel cells was allowed to be casted on an allies' cities, while Iron grip wasn't. Glyph of warding was, Poison domain wasn't. And these are just the most illogical examples off the top of my head =) What made it even worse is there was no way to know for sure which category the spell falls into before actually trying to cast it. Allowing to use all city enchantments to boost your allies makes the system less confusing and possibly unlocks new interesting synergies for the team games. Both of these sound like good things to us =)

Regarding the combat spell prices: well, the combat spells were never really researched with the old RP costs anyway. The nature of PBEM + the fact that leader's CP are scarce enough as they are because of the need to cast scouts and occasional strategic spells have been leading to a very weird situation where it's easier to get mid-level tactical spells for the heroes, while researching them for your leader is simply not worth it. Let's take an Ancestral spirits spell as an example: it's an awesome combat spell that I use all the time by my AD heroes, but I've never had a real chance to research it for my AD leader. This is yet another example of the original balance being shifted more towards using your random heroes instead of the class you're actually playing with. We believe this is not the way the game is supposed to work and we're trying to do something about it =)

profit doesn't always equal balance and single element sphere (which means fire basically) is fine as it is right now (profit-wise). there are other considerations to be had here - easy research and going over combat spells quickly to be able to get some other tech for example. or being able to access different answers for creeps too easy and always pray on negative race resistances

we'll see how this goes

I forgot to tell you the password: zoo 
As to the combat spells: the idea was to get a damaging combat spell from the beginning of the game. This makes the value of single fire/air/water spheres (and etc). For example, I take dreadnought and want to have something apart from flash bang which can damage, for example, phantasmal warrior. I take 1 fire - get fire ball => profit 

This mode does a lot more then just replace the currents - i didn't know that. Not sure if i like the idea of off-class spells on towns - seems too strong, but let's test it anyway. Having a lot of cheap combat spells is kinda strange too. With the exception of slayers' doubt, stiffen limbs and heals - i never bothered with researching those and always used what was available. It's counterproductive to have many spells to cast in combat due to the nature of player battles and given the level of stupid the AI is set to... i will join tonight - 5 hours from now (;

Another 2-2 match between Team of Bears and Hellbrick/Jean_de_Metz. Once again, we are playing on standard settings which match the tournament ones. But this time apart from PBEM Balance mode we have agreed to test Hellbrick's one. Here is the link:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=952663062
In order to enter the game you need to have both modes enabled: PBEM Balance mode and this one.
Here are the screenshots of the settings:





Good luck and have fun

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