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Written on 2019-08-07 18:40:28

Match has been reported, please confirm!

NobCob? One or two turns? Else the current state will just be the end.

Yes, that's it. Thanks.

I talked with NobCob and thought he'd do his turns, and then I was busy the last time myself. I didn#t want to put the turn timer on when it's his turn because it would skip him again, as it did once. When it was my turn I mostly forgot to put a turn timer because I immediately dobule click and do/send my turn asap.

After the deadline, if it's not my turn I wait until it is and as I am last in turn order (I guess); what I need to do is:
Wait until it's my turn, do it but do NOT send it but save & exit (damn, I hope I don't accidentlysend the turn because is such a strong automatism in my head) and save in backup. Then I get back into it, surrender and send you the scores.

Sounds about right?

You should have notified me a long time ago and put a turn timer. Zytozid, are you the last player of the turn and do tou understand the instructions I posted?

Hi Hil,

NobCob hasn't done his turn(s) fast in the PBEM tournament. What should we do? We haven't even met, yet. NobCob had some private issues I think why it was hard for him to do his turns timely.
Will then simply the score decide?

@NobCob if possible, please do your turn(s) fast(er) in the future. Our match really didn't go beyond super early phase and I checked if it was my turn most days (mostly multiple times a day).

2 days left. Could you please confirm the last player in the turn order read and understood this?
In theory it should be Zytozid, right?

Hi! What turn did you reach? 4 days left to end the game, cf. https://www.the-battlefield.c... />
The deadline is 2019-08-06 10:22 PM (GMT+3 if I'm not mistaken). For the player on slot #2 (so should be the host), he has to follow this procedure AFTER the deadline so that we can decide score victory:
1/ AFTER the deadline, the strategic turn is played until the last player in the turn order
2/ that player plays his turn, saves & quits, copy the save game to a backup folder
3/ that player re-enters the game and surrenders, then takes screenshots of all the scores (general, domain, research, military, happiness). He does NOT end the turn. Instead he quits the game without ending the turn.
4/ he sends the screenshots to judges (Marcuspers, Jonny Thunder and me)
5/ judges check the scores and take a decision

Hi! You're quite late compared to other games. Please prioritize this tournament game and try to speed up the pace, there are only 9 days left to complete the game.

Looks like we're at turn 12, per the last auto-email I got informing me it's my turn.

I don't know. NobCob, do you know which turn we're in? It's yours, maybe you can write it down here once you do your turn (:

Hi! What turn did you reach?

@Hiliadan

I understand and that is absolutely fine. Anyway, I hope nothing comparable occurs again.

I do not play this tournament to win it but for fun and I see no value in cheating or gaining an unfair advantage, it only would make a victory worthless to me, should I achieve it with unfair advantages. That being said: Happy to continue the game!

Hi! Zytozid, you got a warning equivalent to warning without proof of crash, which is in line with previous similar cases where reverts happened. We know you likely acted in good faith but we need to be coherent with past and future cases.

NobCob, you can then proceed and do your turn. Let me know if you need more time at best via Steam, then I'll switch off the turn timer. I'll swicthit on after you have done your current turn.

Yep, please do that and let me know. As I also said I actually read through all rules again this time before starting the tournament, still forgot about that one when I saw NobCob was skipped. I just reverted it reflexively, didn't want to gain an anufair advantage. Anyway, I hope every mistake I make, I make only once and maybe in a few tournaments I'll actually not do any of these formal mistakes  

There are very good reasons why turn reverts are forbidden. I know it's very frustrating to get one's turn skipped, or feel very unfairplay to let an opponent skips his turn, but that's the way it is.
You can continue, I'm going to check with the other judges what level of warning you get Zytozid.

Okay, I pause the game and won't do my turn. If you can check this in the logs you will see that I reverted the turn when it was mine and NobCob was skipped. I never started my turn but reverted it immediately because it feels unfair to me if NobCob is skipped without me knowing why.
And this being a family emergency...and NobCob looking for a job (hey, same here NobCob! ) I think I've done right.

It's weird how I always act intuitivily with nothing bad in mind and somehow still manage to act against the rules 
If you need anythign Hiliadan let me know.

sorry guys. Been looking for a new job and handling a family emergency. I'll make an effort to finish turns on time. Zytozid, I appreciate extending the turn timer to 3 days. That should help.

Rule 3: "If a player skips his turn because of the timer, it is not allowed to revert the turn: the host should remove the turn timer and players should notify judges and wait for their indications on how to continue."

Turn reverts are forbidden. Let me check with other judges what we do.
Please indeed pause the game and try to contact him.

NobCob didn't do his turns in quite a while. I reverted a round and set off the turn timer and wrote him on Steam. NobCob, maybe you can let me know here what's going on/how long you're gone?

Written on 2019-06-13 21:38:14

Ok, you're good to go!
Good luck & have fun!

Written on 2019-06-13 16:35:52

Settings adjusted in new scenario,. It has the same name and password, BobCob, please join after you send your race/class combination to Hiliadan.

New settings:
https://gyazo.com/46537df48a97974584a07e41cfbc1b4d

Written on 2019-06-13 15:36:29

Dan, I read that and astill missed it, out of habit. Will change accordingly. Yes, I use all teh right mods as described in the rules, read through them again to make that sure
Will set up the game anew with the correct geography settings.

Written on 2019-06-13 00:01:58

Hi!
Zytozid, the geography settings need to be updated to 40% Mountain, Wetland and Barrens, see rules. Also, do you confirm you're using the Tournament Edition of the balance mod + the SDNR mod?

(I tried to post earlier but had some technical issues)

Written on 2019-06-12 23:51:49

Yeah, last days /weeks were super busy, but should be better in the future. Please add me on steam and write me a message there if you need me to revert a turn or so:
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969351925
I'm not checking the-öbattlefield always

Written on 2019-06-12 21:31:11

Hey Zytosid, 2 day turn timer is perfectly fine. You mentioned you're a busy guy, I can say the same, so I won't fault you for having a day here or there where you just don't have time for AoW. 

Written on 2019-06-12 20:06:54

Hi Nobcob, would you be okay with a turn tinerof 2 days? 1 day is quite few.

My game is set up. The name is: NobCob 2019 pbem tournament.
The password is NobCob.

Proof of game settings:

https://gyazo.com/5b6586a07141dcb747cf2e87c3b1f5da
https://gyazo.com/66ec5180828097d2e61a516c49bb74d2
https://gyazo.com/cbd068c1bd543e714850549a4f4c3800

Written on 2019-06-12 01:03:54

Sorry too buy today. Might be able to host tomorrow!

Written on 2019-06-11 22:31:57

Hi! NobCob, please send your class/race to Jonny Thunder or me by private message.
@Zytozid: please try to host ASAP as the clock is ticking already.

Written on 2019-06-10 18:27:51

Hi all,

sorry for not responding sooner. Lots of happenings in my life but will have enough time t play he tournament easily. I'll need to review all rules and set up the game afterwards. If you don#t hear back from me (if the game is not set up) by the end of this week please let me know and I'll get to it asap. As so much is going on, it might slip under my radar. Thanks!

Written on 2019-06-07 00:05:30

Hi! Zytozid is hosting, for round 1, please use the Tournament Edition version of the balance mod instead of the main branch, as explained in the Player Pool: https://steamcommunity.com/sh... />Please post screenshots of the settings as usual. Pay attention it's Game speed: Fast.

Missing both's class/race. @NobCob: please check the rules, you need to send me (as judge) your class/race for round 1 by PM.

Written on 2019-06-06 03:33:46

Good luck have fun, dude. Hope it's an interesting round one. Feel free to reach out if you need anything.

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Written on 2019-08-13 12:47:39

Ah sorry. I never "met" him ingame and thought he was using a standard character, which would have been elven rogue. Didn't want to create any confusion, just didn't knew it better to report the game.
Well spotted, Hil.

Written on 2019-08-12 22:09:54

Again, wasn't NobCob playing AD? Please update the report if he was. @NobCob: you've got a second match as it's a double elimination tournament, please check the round 2's game blog.

Written on 2019-08-12 20:31:18

Really sorry we had to cut this one short- life's been incredibly hectic for me lately. Best of luck in the tournament, Zytozid!

Edit: Hiliadan, I was playing an Arch Druid, that's correct.

Written on 2019-08-10 18:49:42

I think NobCob played Julia so should be High Elf Arch Druid and not High Elf Rogue, right? (it's not Sundren)

Written on 2019-08-09 16:42:44

Hi! After analysis of the scores, judges decided to award the victory to Zytozid. It's a shame that so few turns were played as games may not be decided that early. NobCob, I hope you'll have better starts in future games and will keep laying at a better pace.

Please update the class/race and prepare for round 2.

Written on 2019-08-07 20:43:02

Hi, it's my turn now. I will do it and then save & exit, save the log files and get back to you soon.

Written on 2019-08-07 18:40:28

Admin report to start round 2. Please send scores by PM to judges ASAP so that we can confirm who actually won.

Written on 2019-08-07 18:40:28

Match has been reported, please confirm!

NobCob? One or two turns? Else the current state will just be the end.

Yes, that's it. Thanks.

I talked with NobCob and thought he'd do his turns, and then I was busy the last time myself. I didn#t want to put the turn timer on when it's his turn because it would skip him again, as it did once. When it was my turn I mostly forgot to put a turn timer because I immediately dobule click and do/send my turn asap.

After the deadline, if it's not my turn I wait until it is and as I am last in turn order (I guess); what I need to do is:
Wait until it's my turn, do it but do NOT send it but save & exit (damn, I hope I don't accidentlysend the turn because is such a strong automatism in my head) and save in backup. Then I get back into it, surrender and send you the scores.

Sounds about right?

You should have notified me a long time ago and put a turn timer. Zytozid, are you the last player of the turn and do tou understand the instructions I posted?

Hi Hil,

NobCob hasn't done his turn(s) fast in the PBEM tournament. What should we do? We haven't even met, yet. NobCob had some private issues I think why it was hard for him to do his turns timely.
Will then simply the score decide?

@NobCob if possible, please do your turn(s) fast(er) in the future. Our match really didn't go beyond super early phase and I checked if it was my turn most days (mostly multiple times a day).

2 days left. Could you please confirm the last player in the turn order read and understood this?
In theory it should be Zytozid, right?

Hi! What turn did you reach? 4 days left to end the game, cf. https://www.the-battlefield.c... />
The deadline is 2019-08-06 10:22 PM (GMT+3 if I'm not mistaken). For the player on slot #2 (so should be the host), he has to follow this procedure AFTER the deadline so that we can decide score victory:
1/ AFTER the deadline, the strategic turn is played until the last player in the turn order
2/ that player plays his turn, saves & quits, copy the save game to a backup folder
3/ that player re-enters the game and surrenders, then takes screenshots of all the scores (general, domain, research, military, happiness). He does NOT end the turn. Instead he quits the game without ending the turn.
4/ he sends the screenshots to judges (Marcuspers, Jonny Thunder and me)
5/ judges check the scores and take a decision

Hi! You're quite late compared to other games. Please prioritize this tournament game and try to speed up the pace, there are only 9 days left to complete the game.

Looks like we're at turn 12, per the last auto-email I got informing me it's my turn.

I don't know. NobCob, do you know which turn we're in? It's yours, maybe you can write it down here once you do your turn (:

Hi! What turn did you reach?

@Hiliadan

I understand and that is absolutely fine. Anyway, I hope nothing comparable occurs again.

I do not play this tournament to win it but for fun and I see no value in cheating or gaining an unfair advantage, it only would make a victory worthless to me, should I achieve it with unfair advantages. That being said: Happy to continue the game!

Hi! Zytozid, you got a warning equivalent to warning without proof of crash, which is in line with previous similar cases where reverts happened. We know you likely acted in good faith but we need to be coherent with past and future cases.

NobCob, you can then proceed and do your turn. Let me know if you need more time at best via Steam, then I'll switch off the turn timer. I'll swicthit on after you have done your current turn.

Yep, please do that and let me know. As I also said I actually read through all rules again this time before starting the tournament, still forgot about that one when I saw NobCob was skipped. I just reverted it reflexively, didn't want to gain an anufair advantage. Anyway, I hope every mistake I make, I make only once and maybe in a few tournaments I'll actually not do any of these formal mistakes  

There are very good reasons why turn reverts are forbidden. I know it's very frustrating to get one's turn skipped, or feel very unfairplay to let an opponent skips his turn, but that's the way it is.
You can continue, I'm going to check with the other judges what level of warning you get Zytozid.

Okay, I pause the game and won't do my turn. If you can check this in the logs you will see that I reverted the turn when it was mine and NobCob was skipped. I never started my turn but reverted it immediately because it feels unfair to me if NobCob is skipped without me knowing why.
And this being a family emergency...and NobCob looking for a job (hey, same here NobCob! ) I think I've done right.

It's weird how I always act intuitivily with nothing bad in mind and somehow still manage to act against the rules 
If you need anythign Hiliadan let me know.

sorry guys. Been looking for a new job and handling a family emergency. I'll make an effort to finish turns on time. Zytozid, I appreciate extending the turn timer to 3 days. That should help.

Rule 3: "If a player skips his turn because of the timer, it is not allowed to revert the turn: the host should remove the turn timer and players should notify judges and wait for their indications on how to continue."

Turn reverts are forbidden. Let me check with other judges what we do.
Please indeed pause the game and try to contact him.

NobCob didn't do his turns in quite a while. I reverted a round and set off the turn timer and wrote him on Steam. NobCob, maybe you can let me know here what's going on/how long you're gone?

Written on 2019-06-13 21:38:14

Ok, you're good to go!
Good luck & have fun!

Written on 2019-06-13 16:35:52

Settings adjusted in new scenario,. It has the same name and password, BobCob, please join after you send your race/class combination to Hiliadan.

New settings:
https://gyazo.com/46537df48a97974584a07e41cfbc1b4d

Written on 2019-06-13 15:36:29

Dan, I read that and astill missed it, out of habit. Will change accordingly. Yes, I use all teh right mods as described in the rules, read through them again to make that sure
Will set up the game anew with the correct geography settings.

Written on 2019-06-13 00:01:58

Hi!
Zytozid, the geography settings need to be updated to 40% Mountain, Wetland and Barrens, see rules. Also, do you confirm you're using the Tournament Edition of the balance mod + the SDNR mod?

(I tried to post earlier but had some technical issues)

Written on 2019-06-12 23:51:49

Yeah, last days /weeks were super busy, but should be better in the future. Please add me on steam and write me a message there if you need me to revert a turn or so:
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969351925
I'm not checking the-öbattlefield always

Written on 2019-06-12 21:31:11

Hey Zytosid, 2 day turn timer is perfectly fine. You mentioned you're a busy guy, I can say the same, so I won't fault you for having a day here or there where you just don't have time for AoW. 

Written on 2019-06-12 20:06:54

Hi Nobcob, would you be okay with a turn tinerof 2 days? 1 day is quite few.

My game is set up. The name is: NobCob 2019 pbem tournament.
The password is NobCob.

Proof of game settings:

https://gyazo.com/5b6586a07141dcb747cf2e87c3b1f5da
https://gyazo.com/66ec5180828097d2e61a516c49bb74d2
https://gyazo.com/cbd068c1bd543e714850549a4f4c3800

Written on 2019-06-12 01:03:54

Sorry too buy today. Might be able to host tomorrow!

Written on 2019-06-11 22:31:57

Hi! NobCob, please send your class/race to Jonny Thunder or me by private message.
@Zytozid: please try to host ASAP as the clock is ticking already.

Written on 2019-06-10 18:27:51

Hi all,

sorry for not responding sooner. Lots of happenings in my life but will have enough time t play he tournament easily. I'll need to review all rules and set up the game afterwards. If you don#t hear back from me (if the game is not set up) by the end of this week please let me know and I'll get to it asap. As so much is going on, it might slip under my radar. Thanks!

Written on 2019-06-07 00:05:30

Hi! Zytozid is hosting, for round 1, please use the Tournament Edition version of the balance mod instead of the main branch, as explained in the Player Pool: https://steamcommunity.com/sh... />Please post screenshots of the settings as usual. Pay attention it's Game speed: Fast.

Missing both's class/race. @NobCob: please check the rules, you need to send me (as judge) your class/race for round 1 by PM.

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