Game #372 | Round 1 : PBEM 2v2 team tournament 2016 #1
Tussell
vs
gabthegab
vs
Evgendil
vs
marcuspers
Match Details
| Played: | 2016-08-18 |
| Amount of Humans: | 4 |
| Kind of Report: | PBEM 2v2 team tournament 2016 |
| Kind of game: | PBEM |
| Game-value: | 64 |
| Result | Player | Classes | Races | Team | Points | Extra Points | Missed Points | Quitter | Rate |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Tussell | Necromancer | Tigrans | 2 | 35 | 17 | 0 | here | |
| 1 | gabthegab | Necromancer | Tigrans | 2 | 8 | 0 | 0 | here | |
| 2 | Evgendil | Rogue | Frostlings | 1 | -13 | 0 | -30 | here | |
| 2 | marcuspers | Necromancer | Draconians | 1 | -16 | 0 | -37 | here |
Posts to the game:
Please change Classes/Races
372 | Age of Wonders 3
372 | Age of Wonders 3
My apologies to three crash and if my English is bad Marcuspers you say you write a message to me but i have no message from you, I've never wanted to be unpleasant with you as I say to you, you're the best.
I know this is very hard to have warning or can lose a game because of bug or crash i hoppe judges take more attention of the moment of the reload warning for have a better expérience of the game.
I hoppe too my new SSD on my computer prevent all problem.
PS:Necro with balance mod stay very strong
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I won't comment further, I'd like to get Fistandantilus' opinion first.
My suggestion is to continue the match while judges discuss internally to see if we revise the warning: judging from the video + the elements provided by marcus, we might consider the reload is justified by sufficient proof. As I said in my 1st post, the decision was "Pending on potential further elements from the video of marcus", now we have these further elements and we indeed think it might justify a revision. We'll see.
I also suggested to marcus to do as gab and fully record the turn - from the launch of AoW3.exe - with AoW3 in windowed mode so that we can see the time. That would provide a proof that should be sufficient in case of almost all issues. (actually that is not 100% full-proof but in this case and at least until next reload, that will be judged sufficient)
Me i have all your army with your 3 heroes on my last video
I see your leader and your army on this turn. If we fought this turn, I would crush you for sure despite your 15 lvl leader.
I write you long message yesterday about this 4 reloads in one turn, to clear the potential misunderstanding.
I have the turn for 24h and wait for judges decision, and during this time I open turn a few times from different computer then normally. I don't know how it can be 4 reloads, I also never experienced this before, I also never experience so many times ironman messages from 4 players in turn 15.
For your second question, I have video of all turns, but the video program stop record when you exit game. And it doesnt allow you to make videos outside the game. But your question is not very good. Because even I make a video before my turn start, and show you when I first press "play game" how is this proof I didn't load the game before and restart? When you have only 8min to do it, you need to use common sense or not?
So, this is my last message, please think how you write and what you want to say.
Please finish your turn so we can be done with this horrible match.
Of course for judges this is very hard to say this crash is real crash no problem, i can't understand 2 thing Marcuspers how he can have 4 reload in one turn and why he don't have a video of the last bug because you say Marcuspers make video of all turn...But this is not a problem for me because Nothing important in the turn.
Evgendil i have see your army and heros for me this is not good start
Why you don't answer do you want play without judge?
I wait a little for play my turn of course i will register all my turn in window window
I will not discuss the judges decision. But Marcus my friend and I can understand his reasons for quit this game. And I support him.
But Hiliadan and Markymark seems incompetent and can't see that I start the turn with ironman message, and give another warning without proof. (edited)
I would accept a warning with proof. But how are you supposed to protect yourself from bug with message at start of turn, if you make screenshots and show it 8min after turn is given to you?
This game is very hard for judge too, if you are ok with that we can finish this game without judges?
I will upload the video, but as stated before, when in windowed mode (for the first time, to show date/time etc.) it it was really hard to navigate the mouse, and I think the video stopped without me knowing it until after, hence why I edited my post below. The video is 3.35 as stated below, it wont show anything against or for my start with ironman message.
I'm really disappointed in the judges decision, and it feels like you haven't used common sense.
I uploaded the screenshot 8min after receiving the email, i finished my turn inside 30min, to avoid any suspicion and problems, because how can I restart a turn, and finish it and make 3 battles in 8min?
Based on the judges decision and my teammates agreement, we surrender this game, and if need be the whole tournament.
Pending on potential further elements from the video of marcus, the decision from Markymark and me following this Ironman notification not justified by adequate proof is to give a 2nd warning to marcus and as it is the second time in the same match such a warning is given with notifications not justified by adequate proof, this is a final warning. Similarly as with gab, if another such reload not justified by proper proof happens, King Serpents will lose this game.
I suggest to wait for marcus' video before starting your game again.
 Evgendil for your information,in the final of the last Triumph tournaments , the Judge BBB say for the final you can chose the combo you want, so i start the game with the same combo that my last game, in the final the judge BBB say what you play the same combo you lose this match, only the other player in final can chose the combo he want?????
I say no this is none sense you mistake me! BBB say what are not ok with judge i dispel you of the tournament...BBB do many other mistake against me but this one is really incredible, you have prove of all of this in the forum of Triumph... Sory if some time i don't keep my calm
I love play
I love Hiliadan Markymark and Fist...
We need to send more details to Triumph to see if they can fix the issue. I send PM to you later.
I have a lot of false reloads before I play on BF. And I have a few reloads here, on Battlefield. And I can say for sure, gab reloads is not reason my reload.
I have in mind was not laughing judges. But I really feel about this game is not as serious as gab. I didn`t know the details of the gab`s problems in LMP tournament. Now, after gab`s words I read about his games in this tournament and it very, very funny
I wish gab win this 2vs2 tournament in a fair fight (if he is able) to get rid of recentment to judges and feeling of injustice that still haunts him
Also recorded video of my turn.
(Edit: it seems that during my turn, I drag my mouse out of the windowed frame, and video is stopped after 3.35min)
If you think I have time to restart my turn and play it in 30min, I will happily surrender this game.
/Marcus
Marcusper i hope you have nice video of the bug
Gab give me turn 8min ago, and I start turn, it give Ironman message?!
We would like to stress that we feel Evgendil is making fun of us and we do not really appreciate it. As far as I know, Evgendil never had any reload. And suddenly one reload without proper justification happens just after the reload by gab.
Guys, please play properly. This is a game. And nobody wants one team to lose because of reloads.
Ok please stop playing again, I check with other judges.
Now judge you have big problem because you say my team will lose the match if i have an other reload without justification my team have 3 reload 2 without sufisent justification OK.
The other team have 5 reload 4 without justification, so i think match is finish?
Me i want play i am not here for have problem, if nothing important in the turn for me no problem with crash or bug or cheat!
I am very upset, because i've already lost a live tournament final that i should win because the stupid judge BBB mistake me and cancel me of the tounament even if i was in final and must win price offer by Triumph the more big mistake i never see, since i have not played live i hate injustice...
I repeat i want play not have problem and please no injustice!